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A few days ago, I started seeing journals once again ranting about how SOPA is going to take away our fandom, or even our original content, in my feed here on deviantART. I did a search for reputable sources talking about it, and found just enough to be worth discussing, but not enough to justify the panic that's happened. I vowed I would do a journal about it come the weekend.

Since then, it's blown up. I've had numerous new faves on my old write-up of SOPA 201, despite it having "2013" in the title. I wish I could be happy as well as flattered, but the piece of potential legislation I wrote about then isn't the one people are talking about now. People have been calling for me to explain the "New" SOPA, but research to cite has been scant and so has my time. I have many more obligations now than I did then, and I wrote the last article at a much less busy time of year.

Complicating my research is the fact that there are, in fact, THREE new "SOPAs." 

None of them are quite as bad as anyone is saying, or even as bad as the original SOPA. Actually, all the scare-mongering and panic is going to make SOPA harder to fight, since we just look like idiots raving about things we don't understand. I'm going to show you exactly what we have to fight, and give suggestions on actually fighting it. 

If we don't mount a COMPETANT defense against this, fanart is not the only content that's going to be in danger. These measures will threaten original content by going after the websites that host it. 

New SOPA #1: "Voluntary Agreements"



The new "SOPA" I became aware of first is a form of "voluntary agreement," explained in this Slate article: "Hollywood's Copyright Lobbyists Are Like Exes Who Won't Give Up." 

Basically, since the people behind SOPA can't get it passed into law and enforced by the government, they're trying to get companies on the internet, like ISPs, hosts, Domain Name Registers, etc., to do it for them. They want these companies to sign contracts to enforce SOPA-like provisions on their own, and they'll probably strong arm them into doing it by using financial incentives like the threat of a lawsuit. The article suggests they're doing this by basically asking the government to sign off on it. The government would have little choice but to do so, since all these content providers more or less can choose to refuse to host or list whatever they like.

Of course, that assumes this article is accurate. It's a Slate BLOG, as in, not an actual Slate article. The article was posted on Monday, March 10th, and updated on March 11th. It says, "This Thursday, the House Judiciary Committee, the folks in Congress who wrote SOPA, will hold a hearing about the DMCA notice-and-takedown procedure," "This Thursday" would mean March 13th. The word "Hearing" was a hyperlink to an article on Politico.com. 

I clicked through that article and looked for hearings. Turns out that Politico article was written in February, and the hearing on DMCA takedown procedure was March 4th. If there's another hearing, it was set then. I'm already unimpressed with this guy's reading comprehension. 

He then linked to a statement by the CEO of the RIAA, the main company responsible for copyright lobbying for recording companies and musical artists. Personally, I find Cary Sherman's statement much more illuminating than Marvin Ammori's blog. Sherman was quoted as saying, "Voluntary initiatives with Internet intermediaries are a key
component [of stopping illegal distribution of music]."

Actually, the first part of Sherman's statement is a really good summary of how copyright procedures on the internet actually work. This is how they work now, or will work in the near future, and it's not subject to change. Then it transitions into talking about areas that big media want changed. Sherman talks about pressuring search engines to deprecate or remove infringing content, going after hosting and "locker" services that infringe on copyright (something the government already does, and he wants done better), and complaining about the same DMCA failures that infuriate most dA users, like whatever it is that prevents sites from responding to third-party reports or block infringing content from being re-uploaded. Keep this last one, problems with "notice and takedown," in mind for later.

I'll be completely honest. What Sherman said in that statement? I'm behind it, mostly. Sites that host user content, search engines, and ISPs need to work with both their users and Big Media to find solutions that work for everyone, that preserve content made in good faith and non-infringing content, that give well-meaning infringers a fair shake, while still getting rid of accounts and users who are stealing. I'm concerned Sherman and the people he represents might swing things too far away from the user's and artist's rights and toward big media's, but he has the right idea.

If the "new SOPA" everyone's worried about just allows dA to remove infringing content without a DMCA claim, say, with a valid claim from another user, I'm all for it. It just shouldn't go too far beyond that. Sure, these agreements could endanger fandom content, but mostly you're looking at threats to copies of art. If fanfiction and "original" fanart were such a threat to the industry, do you think Fanfiction.net and deviantART would still operate like they do?

My main problem with Ammori's blog is that he's basically complaining about something that's already happened. It's sensationalist scaremongering. Yes, it could get this bad. Yes, this whole thing could be used to create a chilling effect on innovation and stifle non-fanworks by putting intense pressure on media hosts and search engines. Why should it? Big media and little media don't have to be enemies. If we as fandom, if we as artists, make a good faith effort to stop "malicious" copyright infringement among us, won't we have more leg to stand on to fight it if big media goes after things that really should be protected?

If you want to fight voluntary agreements that would make it hard to host fanworks, then the best thing you can do is support efforts to stop THEFT of copyrighted works while OPPOSING violations of DUE PROCESS and the FIRST AMENDMENT. You should also differentiate between "fanworks"/"derivative works" and THEFT. 

Shouting about how they're going to make our fandom illegal does not help.

New SOPA #2: The Trans-Pacific Partnership



I'll be honest. You are NOT going to get the usual line-by-line analysis from me on this one. Why is that?

It's my understanding that the Trans-Pacific Partnership is a CLOSED committee negotiating for an international treaty. I tried to look at the leaked documents, and they say the document contains confidential information. I don't want anything to do with this. I'm just trying to help people learn.

So, I'm going to draw my understanding of the TPP wholly from other people who have taken the dive and read the document. Forgive me, but I don't want the legal headache.

Here is the Electronic Freedom Frontier's writeup of the TPP. 

The biggest threats from the TPP, if the EFF is to be believed, is that it uses a really obnoxious definition of "copy" to make streaming copyrighted material illegal (hey, remember that thing I wrote up last year), expand the amount of time copyright can last, and turn copyright violations that are done without commercial motivation into crimes.

turn copyright violations done without commercial motivations into crimes

without commercial motivations into crimes

Yes folks, the EFF is saying that this would make all signatory nations turn things like fanfic and fanart into criminal matters.

Here's the thing though: Isn't most copyright infringement already a misdemeanor in the U.S.? It doesn't say felony, it says criminal. 

Everything else in the TPP is just lifted from the DMCA. 

So here's the thing. Sure, your fandom might not be illegal where you are, and may become illegal if the TPP is put into force. It might become as illegal as jaywalking or being found to possess a small amount of pot. 

By all means, we should be opposing the TPP, or at least the parts of it that are obnoxious, specifically the way it handles the definition of "copy" and the criminalization of non-commercial infringement. 

Shouting about how dey terk er fandom (apologies to South Park), is not going to get that done. 

Further, who's to say the EFF is even right? This Washington Post blog attacks the draft of the TPP the EFF is using as two years out of date... as of MID-NOVEMBER. Still, with the TPP being mostly in secret, and SOPA's poster boy being nominated to work on the TPP in those secret meetings, It would not be unreasonable to assume that the EFF might be more right than the gentleman at the Post.

The secrecy of TPP justifies any legal extremes in verbal and financial opposition (excluding those that would be criminal, of course). Basically, we can't know how bad it is, so we should go off the worst of what we have available to us. We need to vocally express our concerns about the TPP to protect fan culture and small original artists.

But the TPP isn't SOPA. It might be the worst of SOPA, it might have pieces of SOPA, but it's not SOPA. If we're going to stop it, our taglines have to be about the TPP.

If you're opposed to the TPP, STOP TALKING ABOUT SOPA!

New SOPA #3: "Notice and Staydown"



I actually hate reporting on this one, because the idea behind it is great, but impossible to execute without creating a chilling effect.

One of the major complaints people have about the DMCA as it works now is that it's very hard to stop content sites take down from going back up, much less ban the people who uploaded it. Remember that hearing our buddy over at Slate mentioned? At it, representatives from the major media companies spoke to congress about pushing for "notice and staydown" measures. You can read the details at this DSL Reports Article,  but here's the gist: These would force companies to maintain a "blacklist" of content not allowed to be uploaded and automatically check everything users upload against it.

Now, Google already does this on Youtube, right? What's the problem with that?

Nothing, if it works the way it's supposed to.

For one, Google's system apparently pulls a lot of false positives (and a lot of false negatives). It can really screw up your account, I guess, to get a false positive on YT, as it would elsewhere. DeviantART, for example, has a three strikes policy. 

For two, Google's system took a lot of money to develop. The only sites that would be able to stay open if these measures became law are rich ones who can afford to do intense R&D on their own system, or to license a system someone else developed. The amount of sites that host fan content would dwindle, and we'd be back with a centralized media system just like we had before the internet.

What Can I Do?


  • Accept that "SOPA" is not coming back. Shouting about "SOPA" isn't going to help anyone. It just makes us all look stupid. SOPA is gone. Provisions from SOPA may live on, but they won't ever bear the SOPA name again, because the government knows how much we hate it. STOP MAKING JOURNALS ABOUT SOPA WITHOUT MENTIONING OTHER MEASURES.
  • Read what you can about copyright law and the different copyright laws. Also, read about Trademark. deviantART's FAQs are a good way to start. Find books. Type "copyright for dummies" or something into a search engine and see what comes up. If you are in school, ask a teacher or professor who is in history, social studies, or poli sci to recommend resources for you. Learn how it works.
  • Oppose malicious copyright infringement, or theft. If you steal movies, games, music, etc., stop doing it. If you must keep doing it, buy works after you steal them. Support artists who make things you love by paying them, and support measures in your government that would fight "theft" of copyrighted material without collateral damage on well-meaning works or speech. We have to be reasonable, to be a loyal opposition, to be respected and heard. 
  • Report "theft" of copyrighted works on sites that act on user reports. I've heard people say that dA now takes third party reports again. Try it out. Since the media is using the failures of DMCA notice and takedown to attack freedom, we have to show them that the system as-is helps.
  • Express concern, but not outright opposition, to "voluntary agreements" with SOPA-like provisions. Voluntary agreements like the ones Sherman discussed are going to happen, are already happening, and cannot be legally stopped without destroying freedoms you treasure. Instead of complaining about them, endorse aspects of those agreements that help and loudly oppose aspects of those agreements you think are harmful.
  • Oppose the problematic aspects of the TPP with all your might. Call your congressmen. Call your state reps. Call people in the executive branch. Sign petitions that mention the TPP by name. If you MUST mention SOPA, explain that SOPA-esque provisions are being put into the TPP in secret. Any time you mention SOPA, mention the TPP And Notice and Staydown (or at least the TPP) along with it. Don't put SOPA in the tagline of your journals alone!
  • Oppose systems that require or legally mandate Notice and Staydown. Notice and staydown as a voluntary policy is a great idea, but forcing little websites to buy into an expensive policy will stifle creativity and shut down original content. Call your congressmen. Call the RIAA and MPAA. Fight it.
  • Stay on top of the issue. Don't put it it aside after you make a journal and forget about it. Keep searching for this stuff, keep reading about it, and keep talking about the things that you oppose. Do not let it go.
  • Find reputable petitions on the White House website referring to SPECIFIC things you're opposed to. Anti-SOPA petitions make us all look stupid. Anti-TPP or Notice and Staydown petitions that mention similarities to SOPA are A-ok. Want one to sign? Here's one: wh.gov/lVUUX
  • Don't think that signing a petition is the end of it. WhiteHouse.Gov petitions only guarantee a response from the administration--that response might be "Sorry but not." The main purpose of one is to make the government aware that we have concerns, not to force them to do what we want. Keep that in mind when signing. 
Questions? Comments? Links? Leave them, and I'll do my best to answer you.

Resources


Thanks



Thanks to these people, who have helped me compose this journal:

:iconpumpkinqueen13: PumpkinQueen13 - The person who's pushed me the hardest to get on this before I was comfortable with the level of information I found. Connie is an admin at several prominent deviantART groups, including Fanfiction-Mayhem and a number of original art groups.

:iconcneilson: cneilson - An actual publisher who helped me avoid misinformation on copyright, not to mention a dear friend. Mr. Neilson is the President of Spectacular Publishing and the publisher and editor-in-chief of its flagship ezine, Separate Worlds.

B.M. - Author of the best Anti-SOPA Petition on the White House site right now, my best copy editing buddy, and the person who tipped me off about the Notice and Staydown hearing. She's an RL friend of mine and has asked that her contact information not appear on dA, but credit where credit is due. 

The other admins at :iconpoketopia: - We recently had to revamp our copyright policies, and working on that helped me prepare this journal. Thanks guys!

:iconfulminato:fulminato - Provided the ef yeah copyright law links. Thanks!

:icondragonmp93: dragonmp93 - Provided the Cracked and FairUseTube links
My attempt to write up the SOPA 2014 Fandom scare, which actually consists of three threats: "Voluntary agreements" between copyright holders and internet services, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and "Notice and Staydown." Voluntary agreements will definitely make it harder to infringe on copyright and will have some negative impacts on fandom, but are mostly unavoidable. The TPP, however, poses a serious threat to the integrity of fandom and fanworks and a malcious disregard for their intentions... as far as we know. Being a secret agreement, we can't be sure if they've fixed the things everyone's complaining about. Lastly, notice and staydown asks that websites find ways to keep infringing content from being re-uploaded. It's a great idea and great as an opt-in, but it's very expensive to pull off. Small websites should have options, and making Notice and Staydown law would take those options away.

Still, none of these are anywhere near as bad as most of the people on dA are saying, and they're definitely NOT SOPA, even if they use provisions from it. I provide some recommendations to combat the measures a reader might disagree with and what little research I can find on both issues.

This draft was composed on Wednesday, March 12th, with Notice and Staydown and the petition link added shortly before submission on March 14th. 

Here's the petition: wh.gov/lVUUX    

UPDATED March 17th, March 22nd
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:icontokyoteddybear101:
tokyoteddybear101 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
so our fandom wont be removed unless we break a law? that's good since im not crazy like that btw im young so don't hate on meh please
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DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Um, well, the whole thing is very complicated, and technically speaking a lot of us break laws with our fanworks just by making them. But no, nothing here would make liking and talking about stuff illegal, or even make fanworks even more illegal than they already are. There would simply be changes to how things are taken down... and how hard it is to get things that shouldn't have taken down back up. More or less.
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640KofWertzui Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2014
The main highlight of the first point has pretty much become the Net Neutrality debate.
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TigeryCat Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
How would this affect original content uploaded to the internet? If the TPP passed, could I be prosecuted for uploading my own content and characters if (rightfully) everything belonged to me? I'm a bit concerned that I'm going to have copyright holders coming after me for something that's completely and rightfully mine.
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DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
OK, technically, you can't be prosecuted for uploading stuff you have all the rights to. It is hard to prove that if you haven't gone to get the copyright registered, and the "poor man's copyright" doesn't do much. A lot of sites also have agreements with big content moguls not to process DMCA takedown counter notices, which means any site you don't pay to host on could remove your stuff inappropriately and refuse to put it back up. Even a few that do. But, you're not going to go to court for your own stuff unless it is in some way derivative from someone else's.

The way this hurts original content creators is that it makes it much harder for sites that host that kind of material to operate. It will raise their costs to operate, force them to act on automated false positives for detection of copyrighted content, and possibly force some of the smaller or less profitable ones out of business. It will make the IP climate much more like pre-internet days for independent creators. 
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:icontigerycat:
TigeryCat Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
And when you say sites have DMCA agreements with copyright holders right now that (in a lot of ways) probably protect people from getting severely punished for being unknowing of consequences for takedown, do you think that that would still exist?
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:icontigerycat:
TigeryCat Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
So technically, if I'm not using anything that someone has the right to - say, for example, a character / idea from Supernatural or Dr.Who which is quite obviously copyrighted - and I'm uploading something with a character in a story or drawing whom I came up with completely by myself, I can't be attacked by copyright holders? I understand that anything in the public domain(for example Ancient Greek Myth and KJV bible) can be used by anybody. When you say derivative do you mean an idea for something (or an actual character) that behaves the exact sake way as someone else's? For example, if I were writing a book about angels and demons and I used exact distinction between the two that was like the distinction in Supernatural, that would be derivative, and if I wanted a character to have the exact same personality and looks as someone else's but with a different name, that would also be derivative because it would be based upon the artists work? But angels and demons, for example, as a general subject if I came up with all the rules for the world myself and unlike copyright holder's portrayals, would be totally fine.

Alright, I understand the part about sites becoming harder and more expensive to operate, but when you say pre-internet days, what do you mean? Also, doesn't Google's YouTube already use that system for protecting right holders copyright, or, at least, a system similar to that? These rules would just be further widespread and used for user-content sites and more extreme that Youtube's current system?
Also, as email is a service with information shared privately. I write with a friend with our original content I've been discussing above, and I was just wondering if posting back and forth(as long as the content is completely ours and non-derivative) would be ok to do if TPP passes.
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DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner May 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm having a hard time keeping up with all these replies, dude!

I can't really say how derivative something has to be to be actionable. Allegedly anything with "transformative" value is ok, but I'm not about to try to guess at that. Clearly very similar ideas that don't rely on each other can go out there, or things with very similar characters, as long as they're substantially different in some way. Think like, Rip-off movies and 50 Shades of Gray. But I'm not a lawyer and I can't say. I really don't know.

Before the internet became easily accessible, if you had an idea for a media series, be it a book, a comic, a movie, whatever, you had to market it to publishers/studios/etc. by mail because the cost of getting published was so high. A few publishers for most part controlled access to the industry. They couldn't afford to print or produce every idea that came their way, so they picked the ones they thought would make it. If you happened to have a lot of money laying around you cold start a small press, put together a show on local access, whatever, but that took a lot of money. Anything that stifles sites that host user content is going to make the system more like that, with a few "gateways" to a readership.

ANd be careful with sites that share information privately, because sometimes if they're found to be a medium for infringement, they can shut down, cutting off access to legitimate information. Always back things up.

Speaking of the DMCA in your other comment, it would be very difficult for the government to stop hosting services from banning content that has had a DMCA takedown filed against it and refusing to allow a counter-notice. 
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:icontigerycat:
TigeryCat Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Greek mythology, and the bible are free of copyright claims, yeah? And you can't copyright a real-life person? 
How would individual roleplay over email service(Microsoft/Yahoo/Gmail) be affected if the characters were from the any of the things I listed above? They are original characters(what we've done with them is completely original content - nothing from fandoms or anything.)
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:icondecepticonflamewar:
DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I really don't know about that. 
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:iconmigpilot25:
MiGpilot25 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
By the way check this out, you'll find it very encouraging www.huffingtonpost.com/ilana-s…
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I think you'll like this as well.: www.huffingtonpost.com/curtis-…
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:iconmigpilot25:
MiGpilot25 Featured By Owner May 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
interesting...very interesting...
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:icondecepticonflamewar:
DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
That certainly does make me feel better about this, and I"m glad this is going to be the top comment when sorted by new for a while :D Thankyou!
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:iconda125:
DA125 Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
TPP, right where we want it: going absolutely nowhere. We're not out of the woods yet, as Obama STILL insists on ramming this deal, and is going to other Asian TPP countries to bully them into getting a deal. Still kind of glad that Japan is still in disagreement with him.

Tyra, you might also want to check this out: stopthesecrecy.net

What that link leads to is a 2.8 million (and growing) strong petition hosted by OpenMedia urging world leaders and the media to end the excessive secrecy around the TPP deal. This petition also corresponds with another thing they're doing: projecting "Stop the Secrecy" bat signals on prominent Washington DC buildings in order to urge US lawmakers and the media to open their eyes. The idea is for these things to get as big as possible when Obama returns. You know, give him a homecoming he won't soon forget. You can see these projections on OpenMedia's Tumblr: openmediaorg.tumblr.com/

Also, Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch and Expose The TPP have put up a "Save the World" website which allows people to visit the Facebook and Twitter pages of congressmen and senators that have NOT spoken out against Fast Track and post messages urging them to oppose Fast Track (remember what I said about Fast Track? Without it, the TPP basically cannot pass in its current form as public opposition would shut it down.) It also leads to media channels that won't cover Fast Track. Get the full scoop here: www.exposethetpp.org/savethewo…

Both events are part of a coalition of a HUGE campaign to make the US and pals accountable for their support of corporate fascism. And let's not kid ourselves: large scale protests of this magnitude actually do make an impact on our representatives (Last time I checked, most of the Democrats in Congress and more than a handful of Republicans publicly came out in opposition to Fast Track after over 600K Americans flooded them with emails and calls urging them to not support Fast Track.)
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:iconmigpilot25:
MiGpilot25 Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
you're welcome!
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:iconmigpilot25:
MiGpilot25 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This is a good article.  Personally I would trust what the Washington Post has to say on TPP that the EFF. If the EFF is like the NRA or the GOA (both are guns rights group, make of that what you will) or even the ACLU, they have a tendency to blow things out of proportion and use scare tactics to get supporters. I should probably point out that all trade agreements are done behind closed doors so outside groups from all parties involved can negotiate in peace and get they're two cents in. Not saying it's right, the gov should be way more open about this, especially with these accusations going around. The person in charge of these negotiations has even come out and said there's no SOPA like provisions in it, I think it'd be a bad career move to openly lie about something like that because they are going to have to reveal what's in the agreement at some point. If it's in there after this person said it wasn't, then he's got some questions to answer.

Still, keep on your toes. And the gov DOES listen to you. Sign the petition and contact your senators and congressmen with your concerns.
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:icondecepticonflamewar:
DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
If it were a regular Washington Post article I'd be inclined to agree, but blogs anywhere are less tightly fact-checked and criticized by editors than factual articles just because of what they are. I tried to handle the whole thing as balanced as I could, but it's very hard when so much is done in secret. What worries me is that it seems like the TPP is going to get inappropriately fast-tracked through congress on the U.S. end of it. Doesn't help that my write-up is outdated and I'm running on six hours of sleep for the last two days. >.>

Anyway, thanks for pitching in, and for reading. 
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:iconmigpilot25:
MiGpilot25 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
True.
I very much doubt at this point it'll get fast tracked. Many senators and congressmen are upset that it's being conducted in secret and many civil liberty groups are mobilized in opposition to the agreement. If it's abything like when the real SOPA was introduced a few years ago, I doubt it'll get passed.
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:icondecepticonflamewar:
DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Here's hoping!
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:iconmigpilot25:
MiGpilot25 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
yep!
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:iconda125:
DA125 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oy. For those who are interested, OpenMedia has launched their "Stop the Secrecy" website today. Just putting this up to spread the word and help it get as many signatures as possible. The more sigs this thing gets, the larger the projections will be in Washington.

Link to OpenMedia's "Stop the Secrecy" Website: stopthesecrecy.net/
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:iconda125:
DA125 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oy, got an article from the New York Times website that might be worth reading. It's about how global trade agreements should be drafted and overall exposing the ugly truth.

www.nytimes.com/2014/04/20/opi…
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:icondecepticonflamewar:
DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
That is very nice. IT's an editorial, so I"m not going to link it, but hopefully people wanting more info will check it out.

I have to kinda scale back here. I'm really out of my element on this stuff and I'm having some health problems that are forcing me to look at how I use my time on dA a little differently. I probably won't update this article any more until something big happens. Sorry.
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Diren-chan Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The goverment will get HUGE consequences and be overthrown by millions of us citizens if their actions to shut the internet down really happen and we can't live without internet since lots of people are paying too for certain business, art creation, communicating with other people around the world and such. So I wouldn't worry about that.
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:icondecepticonflamewar:
DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I doubt that. People lived a long time without the internet and the internet wouldn't shut down completely, just certain, usually smaller, sites. 
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:icondecepticonflamewar:
DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
To deflect accusations of spam/spyware/etc., I only link WhiteHouse.gov petitions in my journals. 
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:iconstorm137:
Storm137 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
And the petition expired today.
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:icondecepticonflamewar:
DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yup, but that petition broadly covered three different measures, the most imminent of which was nowhere near its final form. No big deal. More specific petition for the TPP when more information is available wee. 
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:iconstorm137:
Storm137 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Great I'll sign it.
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:icondecepticonflamewar:
DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
If I find one, or write one, or have my buddy who did the lsat one write one, I'll let everyone know. :)
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:iconstorm137:
Storm137 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Alrighty.
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storykeeper03 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
well the time is up to sign the treaty and last I looked it didn't have enough, all we can do now is hope for the best. I know I've done my part and what will happen will happen . . . but I don't think TPP will pass not matter what Obama says ^^
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DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
The thing is that the petition I linked was written when the TPP was much more preliminary than it is now. A bunch of people responding to my work have been talking about attempts to pass the TPP Via "fast track." I won't get to this topic for quite some time, but maybe other bloggers should pick it up in the meantime?
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storykeeper03 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
well :iconda125: just gave me this link to something that's suppose to help stop this "fast track", here is a link www.deviantart.com/users/outgo… what do you think of it?
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DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
From what little I"ve seen, I still haven't found time to get some really solid news resources on it, though. Life is busy.
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storykeeper03 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I see, well I'm going to send a message to DA's CEO and see if he can help. if anyone can spread the message to all deviants it's him and he's got an account. I'll present what I've got and see if it's a danger to DA and if he can help, just not sure if he can or what I've got will be enough so I wanted to ask if I could use you and this page as a reference?
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DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This whole thing is intended as a reference, but keep in mind that I'm a teacher, not a lawyer.
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storykeeper03 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I know but a lawyer isn't what's needed in this situation but someone who knows what's going on and your page might exactly what we need.
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DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm saying I might have interpreted something completely wrong.
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DA125 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oy, you may want to check this out: www.flushthetpp.org/save-the-w…

Yep, another campaign to stop another supposed Fast Track bill that's gonna take place next week.
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storykeeper03 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
dammit! more?! well it looks like this will be well known and more petitions signs but i'll spread the word but I should mention that I'm not sure how many will be interested. after the SOPA scare and and how many actually signed a petition to TPP the first time, I'm not sure how long anyone can keep this up. best we can do is hope the asia will not agree with him.
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SuperSmashCynderLum Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Hi there. I wanna ask something. boogeyboy1.deviantart.com#/jou… Is the SOPA/TPP real? will the internet really shut down on april 14th? should we panic?
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DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
The answer to your questions are not all the same.

SOPA is more or less dead. While aspects of it survive in other measures and campaigns, the name is gone.

The TPP is a real thing that many countries are working on but it's not yet set in stone.

The internet is NOT shutting down and won't shut down even if TPP is put in force the way it is now. It would change the way sites operate and force some sites to shut down, but not all of them. 

And you should definitely not panic, but you should read up more on the issue and try to stay involved. 

Did I cover everything?
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SuperSmashCynderLum Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I see.

It's just that what I'm most concerned about is if TPP does pass, will it shut down Deviantart?
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DecepticonFlamewar Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, the TPP isn't like a "pass or fail" thing right now, as it's not a law. It's an international treaty that's still being negotiated, and the things that might be a threat to sites like dA may get written out of the final version.

But based on what has leaked, the TPP would change the way a lot of websites have to operate. Anything that changes the legal requirements for a site that hosts user content risks shutting that site down if they can't afford to take appropriate measures. So basically? Maybe, maybe not. 

Notice and Staydown is a bigger threat to sites like this, but even if it goes through, some sites will still survive. dA is big enough that it may be one of them. There's no way to know.
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SuperSmashCynderLum Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Ah. Ok then. 

But hopefully everyone will be against it right?

If DA does ever shut down, where would we all go?
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